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Updates on cat massacre in #Egypt #نادي_الجزيرة

Excuse me for this short post since I’m posting from mobile and there’s a power cut (long live Egypt!)
Since this post, these has been a lot going on. We went to the protest (more pics later) which took place last Tuesday and all went well.

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Another old post confirming their practices against strays

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The newspapers wrote about it as well but the management is still denying (yet confirming) the massacre. Here, they mentioned that they “got rid” of the cats because they “attack children”.
Most of the people I’ve met in the protest said that those cats were very friendly and they always fed them and never faced such issues.
I suppose having poisoned treats lying around for children to eat is not as dangerous as a few scratches from a probably scared cat being bullied by unattended children.

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The latest update is that GSC is currently dealing with a (and I quote) “animal rescue shelter owner” named Amina Abaza who offered to mercy kill the cats found. Mercy killing… I have nothing to say.. really.
Screen shots of thread on ESMA’s group:

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Solutions provided by members

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According to some comments, Amina is very persistent and the more people object to her methods,  the more stubborn she gets. She also follows that same “merciful” method with animals in her shelter.. the older they get, the sooner they go.

I’ve heard of more animal killings happening:
220 stray dogs murdered in Islmaeliya (bear in mind, this is REGULAR news.. no cry for help) another link

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- a body of what appears to be a lion was found somewhere in the dumpster in Menya (some people say it’s a dog, trying to validate the news since rumors cyrcle more than air around here)

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Those are the living conditions of animals in Egypt:

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This seems to be getting out of control.. again.. and I’m afraid it will fizzle down like the previous times. I’ve sent an email to PETA about the massacre and this was their response:

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We basically need people from outside Egypt to contact PETA and pressure the government here. If you’re outside of Egypt, please drop an email to CIDinfo@peta.org or AshleyF@petaasiapacific.com
Please help us pressure the government to have some mercy. It’s enough that people are already getting detained and killed over absolute bullshit in here. Let the animals live in peace if you can’t help the people for starts.

Please do contact PETA or anyone you think can help the animals in Egypt. Enough is enough. Strays, zoo animals, pets, shelter animals: they are suffering tremendously. Please help.

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Please sign and share this petition #animalrights #Egypt #نادي_الجزيرة #احتجاج_على_مجازر_نادى_الجزيرة

Regarding yesterday’s killing of stray cats in El Gizera Sports Club, we have created a petition addressing the prime minister of Egypt, the minister of agriculture and minister of justice to bring those in charge to justice and establish better animal welfare laws in Egypt.

Click to sign the petition

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GRAPHIC: El Gizera club management butchers animals! #Egypt #نادي_الجزيرة #احتجاج_على_مجازر_نادى_الجزيرة

I woke up to the news of a massacre today and since we’re in Egypt, I know I can expect anything but a cat massacre!? Well, I expected that too.

Animal rights? Please. Give us human rights first and let’s discuss those little shits!

Almost a year after this bullshit audition took place and we’re still facing similar crap. But this time, it’s officially a public demand. The number of times I’ve heard about stray cats and dogs getting poisoned in various parts of Cairo ALONE made me certain that there’s no hope for animal rights around here except for those few marvelous people who really try their best to make something happen.. even pushing for a law which was adopted in the latest referendum.

I quote Article (45):

The State shall protect its seas, shores, lakes, waterways and natural protectorates.
Trespassing, polluting or misusing any of them is prohibited. Every citizen is guaranteed the
right of enjoying them. The State shall protect and develop the green space in the urban areas;
preserve plant, animal and fish resources and protect those under the threat of extinction or
danger; guarantee humane treatment of animals, all according to the law.

The funny thing is that while searching for laws of animal rights in Egypt, I got this link on Wikipedia and Egypt is listed first.. AGAINST animal cruelty.. LOL.. yeah…

Dear Wiki people: you’ve got punk’d. You might as well delete that shit from your website. Does. Not. Exist.

Here’s an example:

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Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you: El Gizera club massacre.

 

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Beaten, chocked in sacks, bludgeoned to death, poisoned, dropped in garbage bins, you name it.

The management of El Gizera club decided that it’s a brilliant idea to hire some thugs to “take care of the business”.. and they did it so shamelessly that people actually caught them in the act! It’s THAT simple and easy in Egypt. Stray cats and dogs? Kill ‘em. And make sure you hire anyone to do it because we hate those varmints but we won’t get out hands dirty.

It’s obviously a recurring concern as this post on ESMA suggests:

Click for link to ESMA page

Click for link to ESMA page

Or this Yahoo group discussion from 2009!

I quote:

Dear All
This is the situation:
Since a year, since last TNR project conducted by coalition of organiztions (a year and a half ago), The Management of the club called various AW societies to do something about the increasing cat/dog population in the club.
Last year, all AW societies, advocates, activists, members of the club made a wide campaign against club management after strychnine poison was used.  a petition was made and resentment letter was sent to board of directors of the Gezira club.
Followed, attempt for an agreement to conduct a TNR provided:  club managment must sign agreement.
Nothing happened.
Again, calls were made from Board of Directors of the club to various AW societies to find solution… no answer.
Reports received of some (poisoned cats), cats and kittens gathered in sacs to unknown location.
I made a call on AWAR and everywhere, to try and save the remaining, I said money is there, all we needed was volunteers + catchers , volunteer vets problem was solved when dr. Rafik Nashed (in Zamalek) proposed making all spaying/neutering , recovery in his clinic (free) provided we just provide catchers.
Mona Khalil told me she would arrange hiring catchers.
Today:  Bahra Fahmy is in the club, witnessed and seen poisoned cats, the remain is not many..
What can be done to save the remaining cats, I would say, estimate has changed, remaining cats are no more than 6 to 8 cats!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!
I wait for Mona to hire catchers as soon as possible, I also would call Mr. Sherbiny of Animal Friends to support, we need catchers  and off course volunteers ..
I hope Nadia Naga you join as volunteer with Vivian and me to transfer cats to Dr. Rafik’s clinic after being catched.
Please provide mobile to easily reach you if we manage to reach something today.
I write this with sorrow.
Dina Zulfikar

 

Link to full thread here and it’s heartbreaking to see the type of crap those wonderful individuals have to endure to state COMMON SENSE.. REPEATEDLY.

This is not the first time something like this happens as most of the animal rights activists in Egypt are suffering. Such practices are adopted by individuals and even whole neighborhoods alike such as Al Rehab City who not only has been doing it for a long while, but also has no shame in admitting that it’s cruel yet still doing it!

"my conscience isn't content with the current solution, but hey.. it's the cheapest way is just kill them! Sorry for the echo, lady!"  Click on the image to say hi to the lovely people :)

“my conscience isn’t content with the current solution, but hey.. it’s the cheapest way.. just kill them! Sorry for the echo though, lady!”
Click on the image to say hi to the lovely people :)

Also, from a link from this post on Expat Forum:

On January 15, 2013 Dr. Suad Al-Kholi, Director of Veterinary Medicine, announced that the Directorate has organized intensive campaigns against stray animals which resulted in the extermination of 1,757 dogs and 518 cats stray (click image for source)

On January 15, 2013 Dr. Suad Al-Kholi, Director of Veterinary Medicine, announced that the Directorate has organized intensive campaigns against stray animals which resulted in the extermination of 1,757 dogs and 518 cats stray (click image for source)

More killings (click image for source)

More killings (click image for source)

The source of all 4 images contains a whole lot of history of animal cruelty and abuse in Egypt and the fight against it both on ground and legally.

The government does not simply care but to get rid of the strays the fastest and cheapest way.

This is how one individual suggested to solve the “problem”: the government should pay each person 10LE (1.4 USD!!!!) for bringing in a stray; dead or alive. Guess what’s easier? Yup. And let’s all share some brilliant ideas of how to kill a stray dog and get filthy rich while we’re at it (technically they’d need to bring in at least one million dead strays to be rich). Not to mention, get rid of those scary creatures.. (?)

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Brilliant brainstorming and bitching about the “nasty” dogs and how to get rid of them.

Brilliant brainstorming and bitching about the "nasty" dogs and how to get rid of them. there's even a group! Click the image to say hi :)

Brilliant brainstorming and bitching about the “nasty” dogs and how to get rid of them.

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Brilliant brainstorming and bitching about the “nasty” dogs and how to get rid of them.

In that same ridiculous thread, a guy mentioned that he worked in the UAE and knows that “Filipinos eat stray dogs” and his brilliant idea was a suggestion that the government starts to benefit from those dogs by slaughtering them and selling their meat to the Philippines.. fine delicacy from Egypt..

Another one suggested that they “gather the dogs and makes sandwiches out of them.. no joke”……

There’s even a group created to support this marvelous thread! On the group however, a lady relentlessly tried to convince them to spay the strays instead of poisoning them but surely, no one has time to do that and somehow according to the supporters, poisoning and bludgeoning strays “is mentioned in the Quraan”.. ummm, nope?

That explains. Group admin.

That explains.
Group admin.

And this is a tiny example of what this country is going through.. ignorance, cruelty and easy solutions.

On a brighter side of the sickening story, I’ve seen a couple of posters pinned to trees in Maadi where people are somehow suffering less from the wave tsunami of ignorance invading this country.The group called Maadi TNR Initiative offer free spaying/neutering in association with I-Vet Clinic and The British Animal Hospital in Maadi:

I spotted a similar leaflet several times all over the place and I think it is a brilliant solution..

Looks like a perfectly happy kitty..

 

But..

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It never stops…

I am personally sick of this. I am sick of hearing such shit and knowing that the government of Egypt does not give a damn about its own constitution which clearly states and criminalizes such practices. But obviously, the government doesn’t care to hold those who practice such acts of cruelty accountable. Not individuals, not organizations and not even a prestigious club.

According to EFAW, a case was filed against El Gizera Club:

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There’s also a protest (EDIT: another protest on Facebook) being held according to a post on the page Stop Gezira Club massacres:

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:( the album contains graphic images. click at your own discretion. Courtesy of Cherine Rachid

 

 

Thanks to Nirvana Said for always bringing up such sad incidents to our attention.

Thanks to Dina Zulfikar for her ongoing fights against those practices and a better place for animals in Egypt.

Thanks to Cherine Ismail RachidSherif El Kadi and Rania El-Kordy for documenting this cruelty for the world to watch, share and disgrace those bastards responsible. Sherif’s documentation. (Update: Sherif uploaded more heartbreaking images.. view at your own discretion here)

Thanks to EFAW, ESMA, TNSMaadi and the hundreds if not thousands of both Egyptians and expats in Egypt fighting daily on behalf of those who have no voice.

Thanks to my friends who helped share some of the links in this post, @AhmedElhendy88 is one.

 

Please sign this petition and help spread the word about this disgrace and maybe put a goddamn end to it!

 UPDATE (25-8-2013, 5:1PM)

Below are the numbers of GSC and a link to their Facebook page which seems to be “closed” because of the out lash.

+202-2735-6000, +202-2736-0405, +202-2736-0328, +202-2736-0364

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UPDATE (25-8-2014):

According to the page Stop Gezira Club MassacresGSC denied any proof that they have financed or dealt with the thugs used to kill the cats.

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We have created a new petition addressing the PM of Egypt and other ministers to put an end to this. Please take the time to sign and share.


Related links and articles:

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Mathaf Museum of Modern Art and artistic Animal Cruelty..

I don’t really get what really excites some of us when it comes to watching animals suffer. I mean technically speaking, I do get it. Mental disease does exist and it’s not easy to admit your own disease when we’re still shaming those who suffer from it yet there’s no shame in being mentally ill UNLESS YOU DENY IT AND REFUSE TO FIX IT. But let’s step back and look at the full picture. Why would you endorse animal cruelty especially when that kind of endorsement suggests that it’s OK to abuse animals whether for entertainment, art or any other name associated with recreation.

We were a bit concerned with that when we saw the live and shocking performance of Ahmed Al Dousary on Arabs’ Got Talent almost a month ago. Till this day, we haven’t received an official apology or statement regarding the obvious act of animal abuse endorsed on the show. I honestly set up my mind on the one fact that whoever runs this establishment has zero ounce of dignity and respect to all forms of life so an apology is my last concern: they need to be treated. Again, mental disease does exist and there are many ways to help for those who seek it (but lack of money is more important than lack of sense displayed in pride of being ethically poor).

Yesterday, I was informed by my good friends that there has been yet another endorsement of animal abuse in the Middle East. This time, it took place in Qatar. Mathaf Arab Museum of Modern Art is now endorsing animal cruelty and abuse in the name of art by a man named Adel Abdessemed. Googling this man’s name brought up some pretty interesting theories as well. This was not the first time this kind of crap goes public and many voiced out their concerns regarding this kind of horrible abuse. Mr. Abdessemed’s series of video loops of animals being burnt alive and bludgeoned to death with a sledgehammer were definitely a hit with art enthusiasts. How freakin’ lovely. He already got his fine exposure in David Zwirner Gallery and is now gracing us poor ignorant Arabs with his divine art.

This is a sample of his work:

I’m sure you find animal abuse very artistic and entertaining.

Because killing animals is very artistic.

Because killing animals is very artistic.

This is not the first time his pieces spark controversy. But reading through that post made me realize that even in art, some douchebag has to come up with a brilliant theory justifying those kinds of shameful practices. I quote:

I understand the conviction and compassion aroused by Abdessemed. The work is exploitive and intense. I hate cruelty to animals. Still, I did come away from the Abdessemed piece knowing more than ever that I don’t believe in certainty, that even though the work wasn’t good, I was snagged by the paradox it raised about what kills what. Still, two of the best comments in the Facebook thread came from artist Matthew Weinstein, who is very certain about his position against cruelty to animals. First he made a good comparison: “I’m having my work made by Indonesian children who work 16 hours a day and get paid $10.00 a month. I’m doing it as an act of controversy to make people think about the unjust nature of the world economy. Thumbs up or down?” Of course, I’d say thumbs down, but just as quickly I thought about how the artist Santiago Sierra paid Mexican workers to do things like get tattoos on their backs or to hold up cement walls. Regardless, another Weinstein comment to someone may say it all: “Go cut the paws off a kitten.”

Mr. Weinstein here claims that exploiting children for money and animal cruelty displayed by Mr. Abdessemed is “an act of controversy to make people think about the unjust nature of the world.” Thumbs up or down? Well, how about a middle finger? WAIT!! How about both? :D

I get it. You want to make a statement. You want people to “wake up”. Sure. Nice. FAHKING BRILLIANT. But how about making a statement that does not include making money out of the misery of other creatures whether human or not? How about asking someone to bash your head with a sledgehammer while pretending to be a horse or a goat or whatever the fuck you want that creature to be? How about getting paid $10.00 a month for a year and documenting your experience? Ever heard of Christine Chubbuck? Let me enlighten you: you might not want to blow your brains out on live TV but goddamn it: have some dignity when you want to state your honest opinion about something instead of subjecting others to the same exact shit you want gone from the face of this planet.

I quote the wonderful Christine Chubbuck’s last message to the goddamn world:

“In keeping with Channel 40’s policy of bringing you the latest in ‘blood and guts’, and in living color, you are going to see another first—attempted suicide.”

Mrs. Chubbuck: I hereby dub thee my personal hero. May your wonderful soul be flying in heaven where all those poor and unfortunate souls being exploited in the name of art, entertainment and higher ratings are definitely having a much MUCH better time.

THIS IS NOT ART.

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THIS IS NOT ART.

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THIS IS NOT ART.

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And this will DEFINITELY not pass without publicly shaming those in charge. Shame on YOU, Adel. Shame on YOU, Mathaf. And shame on everyone associated with this. And also.. shame on every “art” enthusiast who finds this type of SHIT artistic and acceptable. I may not be an art graduate but art is not about subjecting any creature to any kind of pain or abuse whether mental or physical. ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO HAVE NO SAY IN WHAT IS BEING SUBJECTED TO THEM OR NO MEANS TO STOP IT.

Please sign this petition and stop those sick practices from infesting our region. WE DO NOT NEED MORE VIOLENCE IN THE NAME OF ANYTHING ANYMORE IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

Related links:

Stop Adel Abdessemed’s Exhibition in Mathaf petition

Facebook page: Stop Adel Abdessemed and Mathaf’s Animal Cruelty

Mathaf Arab Museum of Modern Art on Twitter

Mathaf Arab Museum of Modern Art on Facebook

And hey: you might as well want to send their director Mr. Abdellah Karroum a little email saying hello at abdellah.karroum@gmail.com

Good luck.

Side note: here’s another instance of animal abuse as “art”:

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Arabs’ Got Talent’s Ahmed Aldousary & his response to Animal Abuse

arabsgottalent1So.. the man finally decides to take initiative and defend himself. Ahmed Aldousary now famous for his controversial audition on Arabs’ Got Talent not only fails to see the problem with what happened last week, but he also went ahead and shoved religion into it. His claims was that he did not eat the scorpion, the snake was “dead” before skinning it and that the show should have issued a warning to the viewers before airing that audition.

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Tweet claiming that he killed the snake before skinning it

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Still insisting that he killed the snake then skinned it so it’s not abuse.

Mr. Ahmed claims that he killed the snake before skinning it which was pretty obvious as most of us saw during that audition. Now we all know that snakes are cold-blooded animals. That means that they depend on external heat sources in order to regulate their body temperature as their internal sources are rarely supply the body with enough heat.

"Infrared images of cold-blooded animals. Notice the difference between these cold-blooded creatures and the warm-blooded humans holding them."

“Infrared images of cold-blooded animals. Notice the difference between these cold-blooded creatures and the warm-blooded humans holding them.” (click for source)

Why the biology lesson? See, Mr. Ahmed here claims that he “killed” the snake before skinning it which is not considered as abuse since it’s dead and can’t feel anything. What he fails to understand is that a cold-blooded animal (e.g.: a snake or perhaps that scorpion) does not just “die” on the spot. Beheading a snake does not simply kill it. If he simply bothered to learn more about those animals he abuses so proudly, he would notice that after beheading a snakes, it doesn’t bleed due to lack of blood circulation which is attributed to its nature as a cold-blooded animal. So what he technically does each and every time he bites off a snake’s head is cause it to die a very slow and agonizing death. Just because you cut the head off does NOT mean that it’s dead. The body is pretty much alive until there is not enough blood for it to function. YOU PRETTY MUCH SKINNED THAT F’ING SNAKE ALIVE. It’s not enough that it’s dying slowly, but also skinned to add to it. And I bet it hurt like hell. (if there’s anyone out there reading this and willing to back me up on it or even correct it, please do) 

Please watch the video below as it is a fine example of how much alive a snake can be even after beheading it.

I will be writing this in Arabic so that I can send this post to Mr. Ahmed in case he does not know English.

الأستاذ أحمد يدعي بأنه قام بسلخ الثعبان بعد قتله. اللي فات الأستاذ أن الثعابيين من ذوات الدم البارد والتي تستمد طاقتها الحرارية من البيئة المحيطة نظراً لكون معدل الأيض منخفض مما يؤثر سلباً على عملية التنظيم الحراري لجسم الكائن لذلك تستمد الحرارة من مصادر خارجية. كون الحيوان من ذوات الدم البارد يتمتع بتنظيم حراري منخفض يعني أن الدورة الدموية تعمل ببطئ. عندما تقوم بقطع رأس الحيوان يلاحظ عدم نزف الحيوان للدماء و هذا دليل على بطء الدورة الدموية. في حين أنك تعتقد بأن قطع الرأس كافي لقتل الحيوان، تظل الحقيقة بأن الحيوان يموت ببطئ شديد نظراً لأن الدم لا يزال ساري في جسده و كون أنك تقوم بسلخ الثعبان بعد قطع الرأس مباشرة يعني بأنك تعرضه لأسوأ أنواع التعذيب بالإضافة الى الموت البطيء. أرجو منك مشاهدة المقطع التالي كدليل على صحة الكلام أعلاه

Let’s shove religion into it!

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Mr. Ahmed thinks that it’s not fair to attack him for abusing an animal and that if we do mind, we should go to slaughterhouses and attack them as well.

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So now he’s shoving the military, the butchers and those who “sacrifice” animals to God.

I for one will NOT discuss religion on this platform as I do not believe that everyone shares the same beliefs but let me discuss the fact that shoving religion into this kind of argument not only gives you a bad image; it also gives Islam a worse image. See, when you link animal abuse to an act of worship you do confirm that your religion supports animal abuse. While you claim to be a God fearing and devoted Muslim, you failed to focus on the fact that Islam DEMANDS YOU to treat animals with utter respect and kindness.

Narrated Ibn ‘Umar (Radi-Allahu ‘anhu):
The Prophet (Sallallahu ‘Alaihi Wa Sallam) said, “A woman entered the
(Hell) Fire because of a cat which she had tied, neither giving it food nor
setting it free to eat from the vermin of the earth.”
Bukhari Vol. 4 : No. 535

If you care to know more about your own religion, you would know that it is not Halal to eat ANY meat and that even in that case you should abide to ethical treatment:

“Forbidden to you (for food) are meat of dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which has been invoked the name of other than Allah; and the dead through beating; that which has been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall, or by being gored to death; that which has been (partly) eaten by a wild animal; unless ye are able to slaughter it (in due form); that which is sacrificed on stone (altars); (forbidden) also is the division (of meat) by raffling with arrows: that is impiety.” (5.3)

While you are allowed to eat meat, you must follow strict instructions and if you care to educate yourself, Google Animal rights in Islam.

Also, according to many Fatwas (a legal pronouncement in Islam, issued by a religious law specialist on a specific issue), Islam does not allow you to eat snake meat. So while you are busy gobbling on your fun snacks, you already contradict yourself when it comes to the religion part since you obviously don’t know the very basics.

On a side note, your words imply that eating meat is a default in Islam and that is a huge assumption which means that Islam mandates that we eat meat and anyone who doesn’t support that is somehow deviating from the norm and possibly attacking a “sacred” calling. This is where you -again- fail. Islam allows Muslims to kill animals for food only and you can -in fact- opt out of eating meat under the condition that you do not claim that it is not Halal (unless the animals are abused or killed violently and not according to Islamic practice). Islam does not force you to eat meat. In fact: you CAN be a vegetarian Muslim.

Another debate is that this is common practice in the military. If by any chance soldiers find themselves in a situation where they lack food resources, they can and are trained to eat snakes, insects and pretty much any animal they could lay their hands on. I get it. But tell me something, can you explain the fact that you find showing off that survival skill amusing? You can also drink rancid water or even your own piss if you can’t find water (although it is also technically forbidden in Islam unless it is a matter of survival).. why didn’t you opt for that during your performance? Fact is: it is a disgusting show of skills and even those who practice it during military shows should be ashamed. I’ve seen a man rip a live chicken with his own teeth and believe me: I did not find that amusing and I seriously felt ashamed that this is the kind of people that have the honor of defending our lands and safety. I would probably look the other way if it was a matter of life or death but the fact that it’s just for show is even more disgusting, shameless and unacceptable. It. is. animal abuse. PERIOD.

Switching to Arabic;

للرد على أسئلتك: هل جميع مظلي الصاعقه مرضى نفسيين بنظرك ؟ و الجزارين بالمسالخ ؟ و المتقربين الى الله بالاضاحي ؟

خلينا نبدأ بالمتقربين الى الله بالأضاحي. كونك دخلت الدين في نقاش حول إساءة معاملة الحيوان واللي ظهر للعيان خلال فقرتك في البرنامج أكبر دليل على التباسك في بعض أمور الدين و فتح مجال للبعض للخوض في الدين. الإسلام يحث على حسن معاملة الحيوان و إن التبس عليك الأمر في ما تقوم به فلا داعي للزج بالدين في ذلك. التقرب لله لا يكون من خلال قتل الحيوان فقط دون مراعاة حالة الحيوان و طريقة الذبح السليمة والتي تضمن مراعاة حسن التعامل مع الحيوان. أنت في غنى عن أن اسرد لك أحاديث النبي و مواقف الصحابة من إساءة معاملة الحيوانات ولكن حديث المرأة التي دخلت النار لسوء معاملتها للقطة أكبر شاهد على التزام الدين بحسن التعامل مع الحيوان

أما بالنسبة للمسالخ، فموقفنا من أدائك المثير للجدل لربما يكون سبب من أسباب لفت النظر الى تلك الممارسات والتي تندرج عند البعض تحت مسمى الواجبات الدينية. تحليل أكل اللحوم له شروط عديدة أبسطها يضمن الرأفة بالحيوان عند الذبح. أود أن  أقتبس هذه الآية للتوضيح

” حرمت عليكم الميته و الدم ولحم الخنزير و ما أهل لغير الله به و المنخنقه و الموقوذه و المترديه و النطيحه و ما أكل السبع الإ ما زكيتم و ما ذبح على النصب و أن تستقيموا يا لأزلام ذلكم فسق ” المائده آية 3

بالإضافة الى ذلك، أرجو منك الإطلاع على فتاوى أكل الثعابين والعقارب قبل الدخول في نقاشات عن الدين، المسالخ و ما الى ذلك. زجك بالدين في نقاشنا و عدم إلمامك بأبسط قواعد الدين من حيث تحريم أكل الثعابين هو أكبر دليل على تناقض حججك

أود أن أضيف أن الله قد أحل لنا أكل اللحوم ولكنه لم يفرضه علينا ولم يحرم على البعض عدم تناولها و كونك لا تدرك ذلك جعلك تفترض أننا بموقفنا من أدائك نسيء الى الدين أو نسعى الى ذلك. أرجو منك العلم بأن البعض لديه مطلق الحرية في عدم تناول اللحوم بشرط عدم تحريم تناولها و بأن هناك بالفعل نباتيين مسلمين، عادي جداً

ننتقل الى موضوع الجيش: أنا على علم بأن هذه الممارسات تدرب للمجندين كطريقة من طرق البقاء على قيد الحياة في حال عدم توفر أي موارد عند اللزوم ولكن في بعض  الأحيان، يدرب الجنود على شرب المياه الفاسدة أو حتى البول في حال عدم توافر الماء فلما لا تشجع ذلك أيضاً ولما لم تتضمن هذه المهارات في فقرتك؟ و لما لا تقوم الإستعراضات العسكرية بإستعراض هذه المهارة أيضاُ؟ في الواقع نظرتي الشخصية لمثل تلك الممارسات والتي شهدت أحدها متمثلة في مجند يقوم بتقطيع دجاجة حية بأسنانه هي أنه استعراض مقزز ولا يجعلني أفتخر بكون هؤلاء المجندين -حماة أوطاننا و المسؤولين عن سلامتنا- يستعرضون بقتل حيوان بهذه الطريقة الوحشية والتي قد أتغاضى عنها في حال كانت مسألة حياة أو موت وليس إستعراض للمهارات و القدرات. الواقع هو أن تلك الممارسات المشينة لا تشرفني كونها تعد إيذاء غير مبرر بتاتاً للحيوانات

Explaining that he didn't eat the scorpion and claiming that the producers should have  advised viewer discretion

Explaining that he didn’t eat the scorpion and claiming that the producers should have advised viewer discretion

Since you know your segment could be shocking to some viewers, what makes you still defend your conduct since you don’t see anything wrong with it? MBC group should also answer that question since they chose to air it without the regular “viewer discretion” announcement.

بما أنك على علم بأن الفقرة ستكون صادمة لبعض المشاهدين، لما لازلت تدافع عن أفعالك خلال الفقرة بما أنك على قناعة بعدم وجود أي إساءة؟ أما بالنسبة للتنبيه والذي كان يجب على القناة أن تذيعه قبل الفقرة، أترك الرد عن سبب عدم عرض ذلك التنبيه لهم

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He claims that he has stopped eating snakes and scorpions 7 years ago and that he was ASKED to do it although he is against it

This is my question to you now: WHO ASKED YOU TO DO IT? Was it the producers? The answer to this question will clear out a lot of things here so kindly do provide us with an answer,

If by any chance you confirm that the producers did ask you to eat those animals, it will only prove my previous assumptions that they knew about what will take place in that audition and that somehow they thought the viewers wouldn’t mind something you have personally stopped doing and all for extra ratings. If that is so, we’re at a new level of human and ethical degradation.

بناءاً على ما قمت بكتابته، أود أن أعلم من أجبرك على فعل ذلك مع العلم أنك بناءاَ على ما قلت توقفت منذ 7 سنوات و معارض لتلك الأفعال؟ هل قام منتجي البرنامج على  إجبارك؟ أرجو الإجابة لأن تلك الإجابة ستوضح العديد من الأمور

إذا تم تأكيد أن منتجي البرنامج طلبوا منك القيام بذلك، ستثبت صحة إدعائي بأنهم كانوا على علم بكل ما سيجرى خلال الفقرة و بأنهم افترضوا بأن الجمهور لن يعارض تلك الممارسات التي أنت شخصياً توقفت عن فعلها و الدافع هو زيادة نسبة المشاهدة فقط. تأكيد ذلك يعد مستوى آخر من الإنحدار الأخلاقي والإنساني

NOTE: This is not a religious debate so refrain from providing us with your religious opinions

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Attention Animal Rights groups and activists in Egypt!

If you’re an animal rights activist/group or know one anywhere around Egypt or the Middle East, please take a minute and share this post. We are already grateful for all the efforts and we have faith in you and your generous support.
My dear friend Nuhad is asking for your help!
She’s planning on sending the Arab’s Got Talent audition story to Fremantle media and we need as much exposure and support to gather signatures for this petition (if you still haven’t signed it, please give us a moment of your time to do).
If you’re an animals rights activist/group and willing to help, kindly drop an email to nuhad_s@hotmail.com so that she can include you in her correspondence.
Thank you for supporting animal rights and God bless you all.
WE CAN DO THIS!

WE CAN DO THIS!

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