Arabs’ Got Talent’s Ahmed Aldousary & his response to Animal Abuse

arabsgottalent1So.. the man finally decides to take initiative and defend himself. Ahmed Aldousary now famous for his controversial audition on Arabs’ Got Talent not only fails to see the problem with what happened last week, but he also went ahead and shoved religion into it. His claims was that he did not eat the scorpion, the snake was “dead” before skinning it and that the show should have issued a warning to the viewers before airing that audition.

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Tweet claiming that he killed the snake before skinning it

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Still insisting that he killed the snake then skinned it so it’s not abuse.

Mr. Ahmed claims that he killed the snake before skinning it which was pretty obvious as most of us saw during that audition. Now we all know that snakes are cold-blooded animals. That means that they depend on external heat sources in order to regulate their body temperature as their internal sources are rarely supply the body with enough heat.

"Infrared images of cold-blooded animals. Notice the difference between these cold-blooded creatures and the warm-blooded humans holding them."

“Infrared images of cold-blooded animals. Notice the difference between these cold-blooded creatures and the warm-blooded humans holding them.” (click for source)

Why the biology lesson? See, Mr. Ahmed here claims that he “killed” the snake before skinning it which is not considered as abuse since it’s dead and can’t feel anything. What he fails to understand is that a cold-blooded animal (e.g.: a snake or perhaps that scorpion) does not just “die” on the spot. Beheading a snake does not simply kill it. If he simply bothered to learn more about those animals he abuses so proudly, he would notice that after beheading a snakes, it doesn’t bleed due to lack of blood circulation which is attributed to its nature as a cold-blooded animal. So what he technically does each and every time he bites off a snake’s head is cause it to die a very slow and agonizing death. Just because you cut the head off does NOT mean that it’s dead. The body is pretty much alive until there is not enough blood for it to function. YOU PRETTY MUCH SKINNED THAT F’ING SNAKE ALIVE. It’s not enough that it’s dying slowly, but also skinned to add to it. And I bet it hurt like hell. (if there’s anyone out there reading this and willing to back me up on it or even correct it, please do) 

Please watch the video below as it is a fine example of how much alive a snake can be even after beheading it.

I will be writing this in Arabic so that I can send this post to Mr. Ahmed in case he does not know English.

الأستاذ أحمد يدعي بأنه قام بسلخ الثعبان بعد قتله. اللي فات الأستاذ أن الثعابيين من ذوات الدم البارد والتي تستمد طاقتها الحرارية من البيئة المحيطة نظراً لكون معدل الأيض منخفض مما يؤثر سلباً على عملية التنظيم الحراري لجسم الكائن لذلك تستمد الحرارة من مصادر خارجية. كون الحيوان من ذوات الدم البارد يتمتع بتنظيم حراري منخفض يعني أن الدورة الدموية تعمل ببطئ. عندما تقوم بقطع رأس الحيوان يلاحظ عدم نزف الحيوان للدماء و هذا دليل على بطء الدورة الدموية. في حين أنك تعتقد بأن قطع الرأس كافي لقتل الحيوان، تظل الحقيقة بأن الحيوان يموت ببطئ شديد نظراً لأن الدم لا يزال ساري في جسده و كون أنك تقوم بسلخ الثعبان بعد قطع الرأس مباشرة يعني بأنك تعرضه لأسوأ أنواع التعذيب بالإضافة الى الموت البطيء. أرجو منك مشاهدة المقطع التالي كدليل على صحة الكلام أعلاه

Let’s shove religion into it!

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Mr. Ahmed thinks that it’s not fair to attack him for abusing an animal and that if we do mind, we should go to slaughterhouses and attack them as well.

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So now he’s shoving the military, the butchers and those who “sacrifice” animals to God.

I for one will NOT discuss religion on this platform as I do not believe that everyone shares the same beliefs but let me discuss the fact that shoving religion into this kind of argument not only gives you a bad image; it also gives Islam a worse image. See, when you link animal abuse to an act of worship you do confirm that your religion supports animal abuse. While you claim to be a God fearing and devoted Muslim, you failed to focus on the fact that Islam DEMANDS YOU to treat animals with utter respect and kindness.

Narrated Ibn ‘Umar (Radi-Allahu ‘anhu):
The Prophet (Sallallahu ‘Alaihi Wa Sallam) said, “A woman entered the
(Hell) Fire because of a cat which she had tied, neither giving it food nor
setting it free to eat from the vermin of the earth.”
Bukhari Vol. 4 : No. 535

If you care to know more about your own religion, you would know that it is not Halal to eat ANY meat and that even in that case you should abide to ethical treatment:

“Forbidden to you (for food) are meat of dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which has been invoked the name of other than Allah; and the dead through beating; that which has been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall, or by being gored to death; that which has been (partly) eaten by a wild animal; unless ye are able to slaughter it (in due form); that which is sacrificed on stone (altars); (forbidden) also is the division (of meat) by raffling with arrows: that is impiety.” (5.3)

While you are allowed to eat meat, you must follow strict instructions and if you care to educate yourself, Google Animal rights in Islam.

Also, according to many Fatwas (a legal pronouncement in Islam, issued by a religious law specialist on a specific issue), Islam does not allow you to eat snake meat. So while you are busy gobbling on your fun snacks, you already contradict yourself when it comes to the religion part since you obviously don’t know the very basics.

On a side note, your words imply that eating meat is a default in Islam and that is a huge assumption which means that Islam mandates that we eat meat and anyone who doesn’t support that is somehow deviating from the norm and possibly attacking a “sacred” calling. This is where you -again- fail. Islam allows Muslims to kill animals for food only and you can -in fact- opt out of eating meat under the condition that you do not claim that it is not Halal (unless the animals are abused or killed violently and not according to Islamic practice). Islam does not force you to eat meat. In fact: you CAN be a vegetarian Muslim.

Another debate is that this is common practice in the military. If by any chance soldiers find themselves in a situation where they lack food resources, they can and are trained to eat snakes, insects and pretty much any animal they could lay their hands on. I get it. But tell me something, can you explain the fact that you find showing off that survival skill amusing? You can also drink rancid water or even your own piss if you can’t find water (although it is also technically forbidden in Islam unless it is a matter of survival).. why didn’t you opt for that during your performance? Fact is: it is a disgusting show of skills and even those who practice it during military shows should be ashamed. I’ve seen a man rip a live chicken with his own teeth and believe me: I did not find that amusing and I seriously felt ashamed that this is the kind of people that have the honor of defending our lands and safety. I would probably look the other way if it was a matter of life or death but the fact that it’s just for show is even more disgusting, shameless and unacceptable. It. is. animal abuse. PERIOD.

Switching to Arabic;

للرد على أسئلتك: هل جميع مظلي الصاعقه مرضى نفسيين بنظرك ؟ و الجزارين بالمسالخ ؟ و المتقربين الى الله بالاضاحي ؟

خلينا نبدأ بالمتقربين الى الله بالأضاحي. كونك دخلت الدين في نقاش حول إساءة معاملة الحيوان واللي ظهر للعيان خلال فقرتك في البرنامج أكبر دليل على التباسك في بعض أمور الدين و فتح مجال للبعض للخوض في الدين. الإسلام يحث على حسن معاملة الحيوان و إن التبس عليك الأمر في ما تقوم به فلا داعي للزج بالدين في ذلك. التقرب لله لا يكون من خلال قتل الحيوان فقط دون مراعاة حالة الحيوان و طريقة الذبح السليمة والتي تضمن مراعاة حسن التعامل مع الحيوان. أنت في غنى عن أن اسرد لك أحاديث النبي و مواقف الصحابة من إساءة معاملة الحيوانات ولكن حديث المرأة التي دخلت النار لسوء معاملتها للقطة أكبر شاهد على التزام الدين بحسن التعامل مع الحيوان

أما بالنسبة للمسالخ، فموقفنا من أدائك المثير للجدل لربما يكون سبب من أسباب لفت النظر الى تلك الممارسات والتي تندرج عند البعض تحت مسمى الواجبات الدينية. تحليل أكل اللحوم له شروط عديدة أبسطها يضمن الرأفة بالحيوان عند الذبح. أود أن  أقتبس هذه الآية للتوضيح

” حرمت عليكم الميته و الدم ولحم الخنزير و ما أهل لغير الله به و المنخنقه و الموقوذه و المترديه و النطيحه و ما أكل السبع الإ ما زكيتم و ما ذبح على النصب و أن تستقيموا يا لأزلام ذلكم فسق ” المائده آية 3

بالإضافة الى ذلك، أرجو منك الإطلاع على فتاوى أكل الثعابين والعقارب قبل الدخول في نقاشات عن الدين، المسالخ و ما الى ذلك. زجك بالدين في نقاشنا و عدم إلمامك بأبسط قواعد الدين من حيث تحريم أكل الثعابين هو أكبر دليل على تناقض حججك

أود أن أضيف أن الله قد أحل لنا أكل اللحوم ولكنه لم يفرضه علينا ولم يحرم على البعض عدم تناولها و كونك لا تدرك ذلك جعلك تفترض أننا بموقفنا من أدائك نسيء الى الدين أو نسعى الى ذلك. أرجو منك العلم بأن البعض لديه مطلق الحرية في عدم تناول اللحوم بشرط عدم تحريم تناولها و بأن هناك بالفعل نباتيين مسلمين، عادي جداً

ننتقل الى موضوع الجيش: أنا على علم بأن هذه الممارسات تدرب للمجندين كطريقة من طرق البقاء على قيد الحياة في حال عدم توفر أي موارد عند اللزوم ولكن في بعض  الأحيان، يدرب الجنود على شرب المياه الفاسدة أو حتى البول في حال عدم توافر الماء فلما لا تشجع ذلك أيضاً ولما لم تتضمن هذه المهارات في فقرتك؟ و لما لا تقوم الإستعراضات العسكرية بإستعراض هذه المهارة أيضاُ؟ في الواقع نظرتي الشخصية لمثل تلك الممارسات والتي شهدت أحدها متمثلة في مجند يقوم بتقطيع دجاجة حية بأسنانه هي أنه استعراض مقزز ولا يجعلني أفتخر بكون هؤلاء المجندين -حماة أوطاننا و المسؤولين عن سلامتنا- يستعرضون بقتل حيوان بهذه الطريقة الوحشية والتي قد أتغاضى عنها في حال كانت مسألة حياة أو موت وليس إستعراض للمهارات و القدرات. الواقع هو أن تلك الممارسات المشينة لا تشرفني كونها تعد إيذاء غير مبرر بتاتاً للحيوانات

Explaining that he didn't eat the scorpion and claiming that the producers should have  advised viewer discretion

Explaining that he didn’t eat the scorpion and claiming that the producers should have advised viewer discretion

Since you know your segment could be shocking to some viewers, what makes you still defend your conduct since you don’t see anything wrong with it? MBC group should also answer that question since they chose to air it without the regular “viewer discretion” announcement.

بما أنك على علم بأن الفقرة ستكون صادمة لبعض المشاهدين، لما لازلت تدافع عن أفعالك خلال الفقرة بما أنك على قناعة بعدم وجود أي إساءة؟ أما بالنسبة للتنبيه والذي كان يجب على القناة أن تذيعه قبل الفقرة، أترك الرد عن سبب عدم عرض ذلك التنبيه لهم

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He claims that he has stopped eating snakes and scorpions 7 years ago and that he was ASKED to do it although he is against it

This is my question to you now: WHO ASKED YOU TO DO IT? Was it the producers? The answer to this question will clear out a lot of things here so kindly do provide us with an answer,

If by any chance you confirm that the producers did ask you to eat those animals, it will only prove my previous assumptions that they knew about what will take place in that audition and that somehow they thought the viewers wouldn’t mind something you have personally stopped doing and all for extra ratings. If that is so, we’re at a new level of human and ethical degradation.

بناءاً على ما قمت بكتابته، أود أن أعلم من أجبرك على فعل ذلك مع العلم أنك بناءاَ على ما قلت توقفت منذ 7 سنوات و معارض لتلك الأفعال؟ هل قام منتجي البرنامج على  إجبارك؟ أرجو الإجابة لأن تلك الإجابة ستوضح العديد من الأمور

إذا تم تأكيد أن منتجي البرنامج طلبوا منك القيام بذلك، ستثبت صحة إدعائي بأنهم كانوا على علم بكل ما سيجرى خلال الفقرة و بأنهم افترضوا بأن الجمهور لن يعارض تلك الممارسات التي أنت شخصياً توقفت عن فعلها و الدافع هو زيادة نسبة المشاهدة فقط. تأكيد ذلك يعد مستوى آخر من الإنحدار الأخلاقي والإنساني

NOTE: This is not a religious debate so refrain from providing us with your religious opinions

7 thoughts on “Arabs’ Got Talent’s Ahmed Aldousary & his response to Animal Abuse

      • It’s been a week and so now and the highly esteemed establishment didn’t even bother to issue any statements. In this part of the world, animal abuse is not only OK, but also a form of amusement. It’s sickening to admit that and we’re trying to put an end to it.. in baby steps. For people to admit that this is abuse is a breakthrough. Some still don’t see any problem with the audition other than that “the snake is disgusting and doing that is disgusting”.. no animal abuse just pure disgust. It’s truly saddening. We’re here fighting for a basic cause while we demand ours as humans to be met. I think we’re really far from achieving something significant in the human rights field while we still have to fight for animals.

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  2. I fully agree with you about everything you said and I’m fascinated by the deep knowledge you have about cold-blooded animals… However, there’s a point you may have misunderstood or understood but misworded: “If you care to know more about your own religion, you would know that it is not Halal to eat ANY meat…”
    As much as I would have loved for that to be the case (I’m a vegetarian and I’ve been so for 6 years), it’s not. The Qur’an verse simply states that you can’t eat animals already dead or that died on their own because in most cases you can’t tell which disease made them die. And it might transfer to you.

    I appreciate the fact that you clarified it a bit when you said, “While you are allowed to eat meat, you must follow strict instructions…” but please correct the first one.

    • Hi Hanine and thanks for passing by. What I meant was exactly what you wrote. By “ANY” I mean “not just any” and not “all”. That’s why I also included the Aya to emphasise the meaning.🙂 Thanks for your comment which would help clear any misunderstanding for future readers.

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